In her interview with Angie Martinez, Kim Kardashian spilled she hated the way she felt when visiting the White House for the first time in her criminal justice reform efforts.
Kardashian said she was confused by the abbreviations officials used. She said she had to ask her lawyer what ‘DOJ’ meant.
The reality TV star visited President Donald Trump at the White House in 2018 to lobby for the release of Alice Marie Johnson, a woman sentenced to life in prison in 1996 over nonviolent drug charges.
She told Martinez: ‘I hated how I felt when I went into the White House for the first time and I didn’t know half of anything that they were saying – like all of the clemency talks, and all the attorney lingo and everything that they were talking about.’
Kardashian said she texted questions to her lawyer, who had accompanied her to the White House.
I didn’t even know like all of the abbreviations in the White House, so they were like ‘okay this person at the DOJ’, and I was like, ‘What is the DOJ?’ Kardashian said.
‘And my attorney was like, ‘come on, Department of Justice,’ and she kept texting me all this stuff but I was never too embarrassed to ask.’
Kardashian visited the White House twice in 2018 – meeting in the Oval Office with Trump in May – and then again in September, amid her efforts on behalf of Johnson, whose sentence was eventually commuted by Trump.
Kardashian said her late father, attorney Robert Kardashian, would love that she has followed his career path into the legal world, and that they had past talked about her pursuing it.
Kardashian said she was subsequently invited back to the White House for meetings on clemency, and that she focused on learning more about the law to speed up the process.
Kardashian’s past working relationship with Trump came under scrutiny last month when her ex-husband Kanye West, along with white nationalist and Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes, visited the former president at Mar-a-Lago.